tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.comments2021-09-18T15:17:57.573+01:00THE FORUMForum Programmeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01213826091209707760noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-51342166328968951832008-11-11T10:17:00.000+00:002008-11-11T10:17:00.000+00:00Well said.Well said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-54016138683928082452008-11-02T20:56:00.000+00:002008-11-02T20:56:00.000+00:00This comment has been hidden from the blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-55884325601550215082008-10-16T20:09:00.000+01:002008-10-16T20:09:00.000+01:00Hi AnnieThanks for your comment, but I should poin...Hi Annie<BR/>Thanks for your comment, but I should point out that I didn't write the post, fellow Forum blogger Oli Harris did. I was too busy taking photos and trying not to wilt in the womblike and soporific auditorium. Didn't we have a chat? <BR/>I agree, yes, there were some welcome breaths of fresh air and "refreshing speakers" (overheard comment)which was a reference to Hans and Daniel (Day One)as well as Lucy Lippard (Day Two). There was also some rather "dry" content. I overheard a couple of people in the audience describe one of the Q & A sessions on Day One in this way.Miranda Gavinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08589139708551755433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-13603319078303845022008-10-16T15:39:00.000+01:002008-10-16T15:39:00.000+01:00Great write up Miranda. I was there too and really...Great write up Miranda. I was there too and really enjoyed both days, although it was exhausting and I had to have an art-free day on Sunday to recharge!<BR/>I agree that Daniel Buren was a breath of fresh air; as well as interesting and intelligent work he also speaks articulately and directly and was a pleasure to listen to. I also enjoyed Hans Haacke and Lynda Morris.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00769049778337546678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-86817110762760976012008-08-07T19:08:00.000+01:002008-08-07T19:08:00.000+01:00Thanks for that, will doThanks for that, will doAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-23430307801670509782008-08-06T11:37:00.000+01:002008-08-06T11:37:00.000+01:00The artist is Bortusk Leer, if you do a flickr sea...The artist is Bortusk Leer, if you do a flickr search on that you will see how prolific they are!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-23286484896182532272008-06-10T18:03:00.000+01:002008-06-10T18:03:00.000+01:00i wish i still had all my pictures to donate to th...i wish i still had all my pictures to donate to this post but sadly i had to give them all back! <BR/><BR/>a great day spent with enthusiastic company is never wasted though - thanks, Tate!Katherine Leedalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01992620506565096009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-67599331907498730222008-06-07T14:39:00.000+01:002008-06-07T14:39:00.000+01:00There is also the question of the use of the term ...There is also the question of the use of the term documentary photography as opposed to reportage or photojournalism.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.profotos.com/education/referencedesk/glossary/glossarycthrud.shtml" REL="nofollow">Documentary photography</A><BR/><A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_Photography" REL="nofollow">Documentary photography"</A> <BR/><A HREF="http://www.profotos.com/education/referencedesk/glossary/glossarypthrur.shtml" REL="nofollow">Photo-reportage</A><BR/><A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photojournalism" REL="nofollow">Photojournalism</A><BR/><BR/>These terms are all variously nuanced and the choice of words is, in itself, highly revealing.<BR/> <BR/>Documentary and reportage photography are variously used interchangeably. Interestingly, this can be seen in the trend in wedding photography for reportage or documentary style images. This implies a fly-on-the-wall approach with the photographer hovering on the periphery covering the event with little intrusion or intervention, and to various degrees also posing or staging some of the images, with a higher level of intervention. <BR/><BR/>When is the work documentary or reportage photography and what are the parameters which define and contain each? What do we mean when we use these words? How do they relate to a particular moment? Is documentary more about a longer term process, to soft news stories rather than hard news Photojournalism with the idea of images telling a story is another genre all together. Furthermore, it is seen by some to be in crisis.<BR/><BR/>How are we to understand these terms in the context of the 21st century where there is increasing media convergence and the use of new technologies, for example, mobile phones (used in citizen journalism) and High Definition video, as well as the collapsing of traditional demarcations? There is an increasing move towards what could be loosely termed art documentary photography - a hybrid form which pairs aesthetics, for example, the deadpan aesthetic played out within a documentary sensibility. Another consideration is the importance of text whether it is in the form of a caption, a news report accompanying an image, or an essay. <BR/><BR/>Then there is the question of to what extent the image replicates the reality, or truth of a situation or an event? Is this what is meant by truth and if it is, there is the need to consider the point of view of the photographer and with this the framing, choice of angle, cropping of the image later, and whether it is in black and white or colour. Furthermore, in the quest for truth, do we not look to photographs to provide some kind of objective truth, or is everything a construction, to a greater or lesser degree, and by virtue of this, a subjective viewpoint.<BR/><BR/>For an exploration of the veracity of the photograph and its use as evidence, see Taryn Simon’s remarkable project <A HREF="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/burden/innocents/" REL="nofollow">The Innocents.</A> <BR/><BR/>“I began to investigate photography's role in the criminal justice system. I traveled across the United States photographing and interviewing men and women convicted of crimes they did not commit. In these cases, photography offered the criminal justice system a tool that transformed innocent citizens into criminals, assisted officers in obtaining erroneous eyewitness identifications, and aided prosecutors in securing convictions. The criminal justice system had failed to recognize the limitations of relying on photographic images…<BR/><BR/>"Photography's ability to blur truth and fiction is one of its most compelling qualities. But when misused as part of a prosecutor's arsenal, this ambiguity can have severe, even lethal consequences. Photographs in the criminal justice system, and elsewhere, can turn fiction into fact. As I got to know the men and women in this book, I saw that photography's ambiguity, beautiful in one context, can be devastating in another.” Taryn Simon<BR/><BR/>Your point about the ‘context in which (the photograph) is taken’ is important as is the context in which they are viewed. Was the image intended to be reproduced in the context of a newspaper, a magazine, in a book, or even on the art gallery wall? What’s more, images are often re-appropriated, especially by visual artists, and can also be taken out of context, thus becoming de-contextualised. This is of paramount importance in understanding how images are seen, understood and read. <BR/><BR/>The question I would like to raise is how are these images re-presented in the light of the exhibition? Is the original context shown alongside the art exhibition context? How does the institutional context of the Tate Modern and the curating of the show create further layers of meaning for the audience to negotiate? How far in fact, is the exhibition itself creating or perpetuating certain viewpoints and mythologies? <BR/><BR/>“The most political decision you make is where you direct people’ eyes”. Wim Wenders, The Act of Seeing, Faber & Faber 1997Miranda Gavinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08589139708551755433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-73715359115766398382008-04-16T16:43:00.000+01:002008-04-16T16:43:00.000+01:00The term "Participatory Art" has become another te...The term "Participatory Art" has become another term, or buzz word, that floats around the pages of contemporary art criticism and, if used properly in funding applications, can be of great use in securing a grant. All this aside I think the big rush for participatory art has past. From what I understand the formalised concept of "Partipatory Art" was popularised after WWII when artist, so disillusioned with what the so called enlightment which had inspired somewhat intellectually elitist pre-war art and the destruction that prewar thinking had led to, felt that things had to be done differetnly. The wide spread of participatory art in the post war era, was a way to bring creative tyhinking to the people who didn't have the same time to think about their situations as creatively as the artists asking the spectators to engage had. I believe this kind of art is very effective and influential, perhaps in ways that will only be apparent in years to come. Nonetheless I do see that it is presently on the decline. This could be due to the fact that Europe has appantly cooled down after its bout of self destruction in the mid twentieth century and as artists are now settling happily into the comforts of capitalism they see less need to actively engage others in their work in a particpiatory way; perhpas thinking that involving outsiders may lessen their works value or compromise their copy rights. Though there are issues to be explored and affected through participatory art and it is important to get involved. The work of artists such as Sumer Erek and the organizations such as the Space Hijackers and City Mine(d) are great expamples of the importance and effectiveness of this kind of art today. Perhaps as we all sit back in the comfort of our western capitalism we can find some time to get out there and make some noise asking and answering the questions we find important in creative ways so that they may be heard and provoke a wider social engagementAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-70418648079777465492008-03-19T16:57:00.000+00:002008-03-19T16:57:00.000+00:00For me, the Surreal Poetry sessions were hugely re...For me, the Surreal Poetry sessions were hugely rewarding. I enjoyed the challenges and participatory exercises. My mind will never the same again!<BR/><BR/>Not only have I come away with 4 or so satisfactory poems, but I'm able to transfer these into songs.<BR/><BR/>I enjoyed singing one of them at the last session and called it 'Guilt' based on Salcedo's "Bedsteads".<BR/><BR/>So, I would love to run a vocal/songwriting workshop at the Tate. <BR/>To give you an idea of the sort of thing, I've done with my Sing Anything! Club group last year, we ran a singing workshop at the National Gallery, please take a look here if you can:<BR/>http://www.singanythingclub.com/testimonials.html<BR/><BR/>Your comments or suggestions are most welcome.<BR/>HelenHelen Astrid, Singing Coach/Singerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17080703713023588066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-40734116637532020462008-03-18T23:16:00.000+00:002008-03-18T23:16:00.000+00:00Hi CatherineThis was one of the hardest poetry exe...Hi Catherine<BR/><BR/>This was one of the hardest poetry exercises I've ever been set, but also one of the most profitable. The work we did opened up a piece of art that I would have found it hard to access because of the maleness of its sexuality and its very conceptual nature. <BR/><BR/>Now have several poems sparked by it (not all about sex), two of which are going in my portfolio for my PG Cert in Creative Writing (due in this week).<BR/><BR/>This exercise, and the lovely people in this year's group (including the lurking curators) made 'Surreal Art, Magical Poetry' a really wonderful experience.<BR/><BR/>More next year, please!<BR/><BR/>AnneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-2217215561948943532008-03-14T17:44:00.000+00:002008-03-14T17:44:00.000+00:00Indeed, can one really say if something is Avant-g...Indeed, can one really say if something is Avant-garde without the perspective offered by time? As one of the contributors said of his own work: "sometimes my work is so new that it is perceived as rubbish"... In that case, the Avant-garde is a post-dated label.Martine Rouleauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11821254208462120973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-17484651797845941332008-03-14T16:28:00.000+00:002008-03-14T16:28:00.000+00:00La notion « avant-garde » implique nécessairement ...La notion « avant-garde » implique nécessairement que nous saurons seulement beaucoup plus tard si la qualificatif était approprié. Dans le présent un artiste ou une oeuvre qualifié « avant-gardiste » représente l’opinion de l’observateur.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-90183969096701701602008-03-09T19:48:00.000+00:002008-03-09T19:48:00.000+00:00Not that I know of. However, this invitation to po...Not that I know of. However, this invitation to post the reading suggestions seemed like a good idea as a way to share some of the spin-off suggestions, which emerge from course participants wanting to know more and exchanging information. This way, I hope, anybody who accesses this blog can continue to develop their knowledge base... Learning doesn't stop when a course ends, for me, that's when it really starts to kick in...Miranda Gavinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08589139708551755433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150953554155227119.post-77506935581637479792008-03-09T10:43:00.000+00:002008-03-09T10:43:00.000+00:00Is The Forum branching out with a reading group?Is The Forum branching out with a reading group?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com